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beebop

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Brain Ev is garbage
« on: June 05, 2010, 05:53:48 PM »
 Hello Everyone, well, let me say I like most people who have come this far have probably waded through an ocean load of self help books, information, courses and generally nonsense that can make us cynical about this self help whole journey we are on. But when you do find something (and it happens rarely) that genuinely works you stick to it like glue because change is what we all here for, right? So low and behold I discovered brain entrainment around  7 years ago  which really worked and I like most found it through Holosync. But before you get too excited this is not a promo for Bill Harris and Co.  This is to let you know that I faithfully every disciplined day did my 1 - 1 1/2 hours of holosync for just over, 6 years. Now let me tell you it had a lot of ups and downs emotionally and there were times where i honestly felt like jumping off a bridge.  The road to enlightenment is truly not easy.  I personally understand what it takes to be truly great having trained Muay Thai most of my life and spent many months  pounding it out in training camps in Thailand. Having said that when i discovered BrainEv i was delighted and thought that this would be a new direction in my spiritual development. Now after reading the directions and watching you tube (Brain Ev) multiple times i decided to give myself a three month break from holosync and try Brain Ev.  To say this was an intelligent choice could not be further from the truth. I’ve completed the first two levels precisely by the book and they have been nothing short of a nightmare. I’ve never been so angry and emotionally unstable in my life my brain is so scattered i can barely string a sentence together. Everytime i use BrainEv my fury is unbelievable within a few hours of taking my headphones off.  Imagine how awful this is for my not only my work life but the intimate relations i have with family and friends.  Brain Ev has simply not delivered for me these amazing miraculous claims it excitedly professes to me online. If this program is like going to the gym for your brain have you just dumped 400lb dumbell on my chest and walked away....?

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 09:38:04 PM »
Well, that simply is not true. The heading on your email,
not your experience.

Read around and see what others have had as an experience.
Many have had transformations.

Sorry it has not been good for you. I suggest you stop and
re-evaluate.

Good luck with other programs.


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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 05:57:54 PM »
Hey beebop,

As I've often said to folks that write in to support regarding emotions that they're experiencing:

It is not uncommon for repressed emotions or memories to surface as you acquaint yourself with some of the more subconscious modes, as well as the cause and effects of your brain/mind system. These upwellings are a healthy part of processing and improving the hows and whys in some of the ways we function. This emotional processing can lead towards vast improvements in personal development. In highly sensitive situations, it's advisable to seek professional  assistance from an appropriate practitioner if you have difficulty processing particular emotions on your own.

You may definitely want to consult a professional regarding your situation..take some time off from the program...maybe a couple of days to regroup and then retry.   :)

Regards,

Kathy


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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 11:00:00 AM »
Yep, what Kathy said.
My first reaction to your post was to think that BrainEv is working better than you may be ready for. The deeper the issues we have to deal with the deeper we need to cut. Ouch. You sound like you can handle it though. Maybe take a break and let the healing catch up. HS is much slower it seems and maybe less traumatic but the time involved is daunting at my time in life. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 01:39:55 PM »
Hi Beebop,

Sounds like you are/were in a bad place when you wrote the last post. Perhaps everything has gone along swimmingly until now. Normally I resist the temptation to give unsolicited advice but this time I will give in.

You have paid your money, a considerable amount more than for BrainEv, in buying Holosync. What about using their resources? Have you re-read the introductory letters? Or better still, contacted HS to get free counselling and support? That's why you paid so much more, I would have thought.

At a certain point we reach the stage where things like attitudes and decisions we have made in the past that we are perhaps unaware of, that have kept us "safe" now start to break down. The Ego which tries to keep every thing the same as it always was says "Are you crazy? This is such a risk!" Yet meditation leads to whole brain thinking and consequently engagement with the shadow less developed side of our psyche. It is part of growing and maturing into a "whole" (or even "holy") person.

Engage with a counsellor or trusted friend in a meaningful way. You are feeling this paradox at the moment. Face it. Deal with it. Then move on.

Francis. 

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 10:29:34 AM »
All I can say from Beebop's post is that 7 years worth of Holosync did absolutely nothing, 2 months of BrainEv made him see a serious problem he has.

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 03:14:08 PM »
15 days and no second post. I think someone just registered to complain and then moved on. Why not delete the entire thread?

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 10:20:06 AM »
why remove a negative comment - need some yin with your yang
« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 10:21:56 AM by 01007653 »

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 11:44:39 AM »
If this were about genuine participation I'd suggest toning it down. Instead, it appears someone showed up just to trash talk BrainEv and leave. For all we know they haven't even come back to read the responses. People here want to help, but it is better to ask for help as soon as serious problems begin instead of waiting for them to become unmanageable. The reason I suggested removing this thread was because people come here to get an idea of if BrainEv is right for them and they may get the wrong impression just from seeing the subject line. Maybe they will read this thread carefully and maybe they won't.

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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 12:11:25 PM »
I agree with Inedible.
The title is wrong, the request for help was late,
the tone is blaming instead of requesting clarification.

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 05:11:55 AM »
Hmmmmm.... i knew anybody that felt like cracking the whip in support of BrainEv was going to .....But the truth is none of you actually know how far anybody should be pushing their brain. It would be a guesstimation at best even if you were a Neurologist  or a biochemist.  It's true I can admit that BrainEv (in hindsight) is way too powerful for me and nobody knows how high someones threshold is or how long it will take to change.  Anybody can say "Hey just hang in there" but the stress could stay for months and still not change...I'm not pro or anti Holosync but an objective approach says that chemical changes to the brain should be done slowly.  I personally would not advocate a turbo approach to brain  entrainment. Its kinda like throwing someone who doesn't know how to drive into an F1 car and telling them to step on the gas. Truth be known meditation was and always will be a life long commitment to those on the path of spiritual development so what's the rush anyway?? To those comments that were informative thank you i appreciate it, to those that were emotionally reactive and bias - like water off a ducks back. And finally let me say BrainEv is powerful probably too strong for most people hopefully in the future I may be able to use the Cd's again without losing my mind who knows only time will tell....... ???

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 11:13:00 AM »
At least admit (to yourself) that you set the tone when you chose your subject line.

You learned from the holosync material that everyone has a threshold for the amount and strength of input from their environment that they can tolerate. Below this level, life happens smoothly. and above this level, there is a tendency for maladaptive responses like anger and depression. It isn't simply being above your threshold that directly causes the problem. Bill Harris said that all discomfort comes from resistance. The holosync program is designed to give you a push that keeps you near your threshold in a way that will be constructive, so that your threshold will increase, but the main lesson was directed at reducing or even eliminating the resistance to being over your threshold to prevent anger and depression and other problems. He called it "the watcher" and contrasted it with "reactive mind". Gaining the skill "the watcher" was supposed to come automatically from listening to holosync CDs, but from what I have observed, it doesn't seem to work that way unless you are doing it for yourself intentionally. The Sedona Method is a way of interacting with your thoughts and emotions that gives you the same skill that will show you how to work through resistance. The last thing you want to do is fight against resistance directly, because that just increases the problem. Once you are angry you can't just get angry about being angry, and you can't just tell yourself not to be angry. (Try your local library. You may be able to learn The Sedona Method without paying anything. If they don't have anything about it in their collection, they can use Inter-library Loan to get material that is not in their collection.)

Like holosync, BrainEv is also designed to push you, but in a different way. The purpose is to speed up your response to entrainment, so you do not need six minutes or however long they are saying now to respond and follow entrainment. The third level is supposed to irritate you, because that is where you have two different entrainments going at the same time in different directions and you have to choose which one to follow. You are supposed to choose the calmer, deeper level, but at the same time you also feel the other entrainment constantly pulling at you. It isn't something that you need to fight. You just have to keep choosing to follow the deeper level. Of course, I am not suggesting that you do this now. Actually, I wouldn't suggest going back to holosync, either, yet. The Sedona Method would be helpful, but there are other tools you can use to learn to work with resistance.

The most important thing is that you have to very clearly decide what it is you want to do. Yes, this is a BrainEv forum, but you will also find a great many holosync people here. I have finished Flowering Level 4 and my threshold continues to increase on momentum as Bill Harris promised. The first time I tried BrainEv I also found myself becoming irritated with that third level, and I quit, too. I forgot that it was the third level where they deliberately try to pull you in two directions at once. This helps you to learn to concentrate on what you are doing while not responding to distractions from your environment. I thought that was going to be in level four. As you can tell, I didn't read the directions very well because I finished holosync and I just assumed that some six month program called BrainEv couldn't compare. Now I am starting again with level 1. I have reduced the amount of stress in my life and I feel better prepared this time both from reading the directions and listening to people here talk about their experiences. Also, I know what it is I want to get from completing the program this time. If you choose to let us know what is going on with you, we can tell you considerably more than "hang in there". The problem is that you have to know what it is you want and you have to tell us. We will probably ask uncomfortable questions. If you don't want to answer them, just say so. This is for your benefit, not ours.

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2010, 05:28:39 PM »
Thank you very much Inedible that was helpful I'll rethink my strategy and keep you  posted on the direction i take.. ::)

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 04:25:52 PM »
Meditation takes a lot of practice, it doesn't just happen over night.  You have to work on controlling your brain.

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Re: Brain Ev is garbage
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 07:55:53 PM »
Hi Beebop,

I can understand what you're saying beebop, as I'm going through very similar experiences now. I'm right in the middle of Level 2 and all that stuff is coming up. However, I'm lucky enough to be in the witness mode and kind of just thinking to myself "that's interesting" when I have some outburst or feel overwhelmed and emotional. And trust me I've been experiencing that! Lol.

The witnessing has really allowed me to keep in good spirits as has this amazing forum. I can see on the forum that people, like yourself and myself, are going through the same experiences as me, and can also see those that have gone before me come out the other side into a more profoundly, positive space. This gives me great comfort in and of itself.

A friend of mine who is very advanced spiritually put it best for me when all your 'stuff' comes up to be released when they said:

"You first have to become an empty vessel before you can become a full one."

That statement has helped me to see this as an emptying, and therefore everything will just get better and better.  :D

 


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