Oh dear, sorry that the session didn't help!

Although it does sound slightly as though you entered it in a not-so-wonderful state of mind to start with

The Happiness session is intended to help boost your mood. The tubular bells aren't there to save any time, effort or money, but rather were there as they were the best tool for the job.

The Brain Salon *isn't* as complex or in-depth as BrainEv, that's for sure. This is a much simpler system, but many people enjoy its "raw" functioning!

Sorry that one didn't click with you! :O

Hi PureBliss,

I agree with most of your statements.  It's too funny (& scary  ) the coincidences of similar examples you used and I thought of yesterday. I kept referring to BrainEv as a "Ferrari" in my example.  I didn't know how best to write my answer to Karl's question on a different thread but I will try my best (opted to answer via email due to the length ).  I too had felt little difference with Happy Pill--certainly less than "Razor Sharp, Creative Spark, and Power Chill". I have had a 50/50 success rate with "Ultra Deep Sleep"--the one I REALLY hoped for better results than I got and believe me I've tried!! It hasn't put me to sleep but got me close to it and my dreams have increased when I use it.  I know others had better success with these so it is different for everyone. You are absolutely right--it is the results that matter most. Those wishing to try it will see them, the only question is the degree of the results (success you see). I, too, am still trying to figure the answer to that for myself with both products.

The best I got from Happy Pill was a little difference in the right direction and I've done each CD several times. In contrast, I can't say that about BrainEv. I definitely see results with each level thus far. As far as the mix sound, it didn't bother me or become an obstacle that hindered my results. Just know it is different from BrainEv in the sounds, usage and results for those who haven't tried it. It is a good program (I haven't used many BWE programs), but it is still a good choice though not as potent as BrainEv.

Keep plugging away, PureBliss and I'll talk with ya later.

I haven't tried Brain Salon but I do have some iPhone apps designed to induce certain states with binaural rhythms (they were really cheap so I don't know how they compare in quality). In my experiences with the tracks I have listened to, I have different results depending on my state when I listen to them. For example, I tried listening to a "deep delta sleep" track when I was wide awake hoping to fall deeply asleep quickly. Instead, I felt panicky within a few minutes and ended up ripping the earbuds out of my ears and rocking myself to sleep haha. I have since found that if I listen to a theta track for a while (my fav is an alpha/theta combo) to deeply relax, then I am MUCH more open to the delta waves.

So all that said, I'm wondering what the process of entrainment is with Brain Salon in terms of progression through each track. Is it simply woven track of specific frequencies in hopes that listening to them for long enough will induce that state? Or do they start at a different level, say, beta for instance, then work toward whatever frequency is desired over the course of time?

I guess what I'm really getting at is this: is Brain Salon developed so that a person feeling angry or discontent should be able to listen to "Happy Pill" and progressively slide through the frequencies to a state of happiness? Maybe utilizing a combo of two tracks in a row to transition from one mindset to another would be more fruitful?

Oh, and just a thought on the comments about the perceived quality of sound with Brain Salon (and again, I haven't heard it so I'm just speaking in general terms)...but one of the most relaxing and pleasant experiences I have ever had in my life was getting an MRI (twice now actually). For those who don't know, it could probably be most closely equated with listening to an electronic version of a jackhammer at very high volume in a tiny, enclosed space. They let me listen to the radio but after a few minutes I opted to leave it off. For who knows what reason, I was completely enveloped by the sounds of the machine and was barely awake...probably somewhere in low theta...the whole time. The first time I heard a pure alpha rhythm it immediately reminded me of this experience and I had no doubt in my mind of the potential of brain entrainment. So I guess in my mind it's much more important to have the right rhythms in the right order, etc. than to have a pleasant-sounding background. Not that pleasant sounds aren't great. But I like to think that less is more sometimes. So anyway, this is longer than I intended but best of luck...and maybe experimenting with the how's and when's will make a difference? Who knows

Just wanted to answer this point specifically:

>> I guess what I'm really getting at is this: is Brain Salon developed so that a person feeling angry or discontent should be able to listen to "Happy Pill" and progressively slide through the frequencies to a state of happiness? Maybe utilizing a combo of two tracks in a row to transition from one mindset to another would be more fruitful?

Frequencies can impact on you differently, depending on your present state of mind. If you are in an agitated state of mind, then beta frequencies will typically agitate you further.

Here's a quote DIRECTLY from the user manual:

===

If you are experiencing anxiety, do not use beta
sessions, as they may agitate an unsettled mind.
Beta sessions include High Energy Espresso and
Razor Sharp. Instead, ?rst settle the mind, using a
session such as Power Chill. Then listen to the beta
sessions as required.

===

Getting relaxed and into "neutral" before any brainwave entrainment session is always a good idea.

Thanks

Pure Bliss,

would you say that Power Chill is a good way to relax and unwind if you are feeling frazzled then? I am still on the fence about buying Brain Salon and parting with my hard earned cash....but felt like there might have been something that could help me yesterday...

I tried Neptunes Cave as it is the current level I am working with but gave up after 15 mins...basically I was driving to a friends house for the first time...it was a complex journey and although I had my gps...I needed to get calm before setting out....your description of Power Chill made me think that might have fitted the bill?

Will be posting again re Brain EV soon as Neptune's cave which started out great for me sometimes brings up too many memories..some good some bad but I end up thinking too much where as Brain Ev is used as my "Time Out" from everything else...so the last thing I need is to be ending up thinking about stuff I had forgotten/didnt even know I still had the memories of...and have enough trouble shutting down current thoughts without old ones arising...!!

Thanks and glad to hear you got some respite from your feelings...

Robert,

Thanks for your encouragement....I stuck with it, and the memories ceased to come up after a week...they were mostly from my childhood, with a few more recent ones as I have been trying to stop rethinking or recirculating bad memories re certain events in my life and instead focus on the positive memories....which I have mainly suceeded in...maybe they needed to come up in order for me to re-appraise them?

Anyway, I took the plunged and bought Brain Salon earlier this week, so far only used Happy Pill a couple of times, both times I was feeling "ok" and wanted to feel "better"..it seemed to do the trick and this weekend I have got through tons of household jobs I have kept postponing....and felt too overwhelmed to start....not done a huge amount but more than normal....

Then today I am about to start Brain EV level 6 so popped on here before my first listen.....

Re the sounds on Brain Salon well I think the HP works fairly well for me as it reminds me of music i used to playing during reiki healing/relaxation sessions.....so that prob helped....

I did play the sleep track once...I did not have a troubled mind so was relaxed before sleeping but still awake at the end of the track and woke during the night....not needed to use it since but will try it again and also the others more next week as I am back to work after a week off!